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MMS tabs and CDS

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2 years 4 months ago #232 by paulo
Hello everybody, and all my thanks for your informations on this forum

i recently went to the site mmstabs.com. And I get confused as i read somewhere that
CDS was much performant than mms and that acid wasn't that good for stomach. But
the tabs now are mms ?....

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2 years 4 months ago #233 by CLO2
Paulo, I have not heard of anyone having problems taking MMS tabs.

Do you have a link to the article on "acid" stomach problems with MMS vs CDS? If MMS is made with HCL that would be okay in a stomach as HCL is native to stomachs. If MMS is made with citric acid, that could be a problem for some people, but you don't have to use citric acid.

2 ml of 3000 ppm original CDS equals a 1 drop MMS1 dose in a normal stomach
www.mmsinfo.org/infosheets/mms1_equates_to_cdh_and_cds.pdf
Websites: MMSinfo.org * www.facebook.com/groups/ebolacures/
YouTube Instructional Videos: www.youtube.com/channel/UCXv6hCnvjMmGg4_AYq4wlNw
Answers to many questions are in Jim Humble's books: jhbooks.org/

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2 years 4 months ago #234 by paulo
thank CLO2 for answering.
in fact, i am little confused. Let me resume the things as i see them and you will understand why
i am confused (i know nothing at all in chemistry, even the terms are new to me)
at first, the product is the same. but there are several ways to activate it and several methods to
get the final solution. and as i certainly was not enough confused, as i found today cdh at
mmsnews.is/newsletter/212-a-new-simpler-...e-holding-01-04-2014
some one saying that CDH WAS the best !!
in fact, i do not have much time to try them all, and i would like to take the solution that give me the
most efficience.
to come back to the tablets, i had supposed that they were activated with citric acid. Are they ?
an i was surprised as i just read that making CDS avoid to give too much acid to the stomach.
i cannot say where exactly as i read a lot those last days about MMS.

I've also listened Andreas' interview given May 2015 who definitively seems to opt for HCl 4%
when making CDS. Back to this forum afterwards,
I have read some exchanges between Pam, Slavek, Michael in January 2013 saying they
continue to use citric aci till Jim says something about that. May be something missed for me
between those 2 dates ?

Sorry - my questions might seem of nosense, i am a newcomer in this matter and between
all options, i do not know which one i must choose now !!

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2 years 4 months ago - 2 years 4 months ago #235 by CLO2
Paulo, I don't know if you have read Jim's books, but in his original discovery of stabilized oxygen (SO) curing malaria, he found that a small amount (about 3%) of sodium chlorite (NaCLO2) was in the SO which, as you may know, will release some chlorine dioxide (CLO2) when mixed with an acid. That acid was supplied by the malaria sufferer's stomach acid, most likely hydrochloric acid (HCL).

But, other acids will also work to release CLO2 from NaCLO2 such as citric acid. Citric acid is manufactured and is also found in citrus fruits, especially in lemons. That is why lemon juice will also react with NaCLO2 (MMS) and release some CLO2.

I do not know what acid is used in the tabs. Here is a photo of some of the ingredients from the tab container:



MMS1 (activated MMS) was the first sodium chlorite solution (SCS). That is MMS plus an acid, which releases some CLO2. The next SCS to be developed was CDS, by Andreas Kalcker, which does not contain any of the original ingredients, NaCLO2 and an acid. CDS should be only CLO2 gas in distilled water. That is why CDS contains no acid.

Next came CDH, developed by Scott McRae, which is the same as MMS1 except it is more activated externally (about 50%) than MMS1.

Back to MMS1. When it is said to be "activated" that means some (about 10% at most) CLO2 is released during the external activation process and the rest of the CLO2 should be released in a stomach with normal amounts of gastric acids. If a person has low or no stomach acid, then MMS tabs should be a good choice. By the way, it is recommended to put MMS tabs in small empty capsules before ingesting.

Since HCL is native to stomachs, and not citric acid, normally there is no stomach upset caused by ingesting MMS1 or CDH made with 4% HCL. But, some people's stomachs don't like citric acid. That is why Jim now recommends that 4% HCL be used with MMS. The old forum posts you're reading don't mention HCL because that acid activator came later, with the arrival of CDS.

Which SCS, MMS1, CDS or CDH is best for you may depend on the application. If ingesting, MMS1 or CDH may be the best. For external use, I personally would choose CDS as it is fully activated which means all the CLO2 has been released into the water solution.

For ingestion, MMS1 or CDH made with 4% HCL will taste much better to most people compared to 50% citric acid. So, acid choice is now simple with 4% HCL being recommended over 50% citric acid.

If you can tell us what ailment you want to work on, we may be able to suggest a SCS to use.

As you say, MMS1, CDS and CDH are made from the same two ingredients. So, you can make all of them at home and try each of them. Be aware that the protocols were developed when only MMS1 was known. If you use CDS or CDH with the protocols you will need to know how to dose accordingly. That subject is discussed in detail at www.mmsinfo.org

Sorry about the confusion, but this is not a simple subject to understand for newcomers. Ask any question you may have.

2 ml of 3000 ppm original CDS equals a 1 drop MMS1 dose in a normal stomach
www.mmsinfo.org/infosheets/mms1_equates_to_cdh_and_cds.pdf
Websites: MMSinfo.org * www.facebook.com/groups/ebolacures/
YouTube Instructional Videos: www.youtube.com/channel/UCXv6hCnvjMmGg4_AYq4wlNw
Answers to many questions are in Jim Humble's books: jhbooks.org/
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2 years 3 months ago #238 by paulo
Hello CLO2,
Aouhh ! I am very impressed to see with such talent you manage to organize these information
to make them clear , even to me in the state I was !! the fog greatly lightens. Thanks a lot really.

the purpose of my reseach on mms is for a friend who has a quite avanced breast cancer. she has
external tumors. She began treatment for more than two months ago. She started with
MMS but quickly opted for CDS, she drinks it about 5 times a day and make also external treatment
with it, such as daily bath and she sprays CDS directly to the tumors too.
she also take 3 or 4 MMS2 per day; she never could take more by now. This is "good days" program
because after two or tree days like this, she got sick and she just takes one or two MMS2 and drinks
little of CDS solution for one or two days, may be three, and starts again with the "good days" program..
She feels better than she was 2 months ago, but not that much neither. the tumors look the same,
and are ofter bleeding.

She does not dare take DMSO, because she made eye surgery some years ago, and a lens was
replaced, something like for a cataract surgery.
Someone told her that DMSO as solvant could damage the plastic lens. But i have read nothing of this
in the protocols. What do you think ?

I am quite worried. So i thought that she might not take the good version of MMS or something
is going wrong in the way she takes it. At the begining of the treatment for exemple, she used to take
liposomal vitamin C at night, but she stopped after a few weeks as it might cancel the action of CDS.

We are reading the documents on MMS info Dot.org. Thanks a lot.


And sorry for the delay of this response, I was out of reach, far from computer world for a few days.
meanwhile, i had a small accident that allows me to make a good experience with mms2.

I hurt my foot. The wound was pretty bad, black underneath and around. The 2nd day I remembered
I had in my suitcase MMS2 I brought for someone over there. And amazing! in two days, blood stagnating
disappeared,the wound stopped bleeding and began to heal. Each step goes so quickly, almost like a film in fast motion !

I was fascinated and could not stop spraying at it and took several foot baths.
I thought if product proceeds the same way inside,
so all damage of blood vessels, veins and arteries and heart tissue perhaps, the skin too, all tissues in
fact should be repaired in the same way... or am I dreaming ?

And may be my friend could spray mms2 on tumors too ?

thanks again for your help. Paulo

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2 years 3 months ago - 2 years 3 months ago #239 by CLO2
Yes, your friend should try putting full strength (not diluted) CDS on her breast tumors. Bleeding makes it easy for the CDS to get into the blood near the tumors and should help kill the cancer. Put it on often and try to have her continue with CDS internally as well as do a CDS douche. The douche protocol is on my website.

I would also use "black salve" or "Indian herb" on the external tumors. That will draw the cancer out. Follow the directions carefully. It can be painful the first few days. I used it for a tumor on my back and took 29 days to pull it out.

I have had two cataract eye operations and take DMSO at times with no problem. Maybe DMSO in my eye would a problem, but I don't plan on doing that.

Liposomal vitamin C is very good if you take enough of it. A friend with Lyme is taking 165ml daily and is improving. It could interfere with MMS so best to take on alternate days or weeks.

2 ml of 3000 ppm original CDS equals a 1 drop MMS1 dose in a normal stomach
www.mmsinfo.org/infosheets/mms1_equates_to_cdh_and_cds.pdf
Websites: MMSinfo.org * www.facebook.com/groups/ebolacures/
YouTube Instructional Videos: www.youtube.com/channel/UCXv6hCnvjMmGg4_AYq4wlNw
Answers to many questions are in Jim Humble's books: jhbooks.org/
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2 years 3 months ago #242 by CLO2

2 ml of 3000 ppm original CDS equals a 1 drop MMS1 dose in a normal stomach
www.mmsinfo.org/infosheets/mms1_equates_to_cdh_and_cds.pdf
Websites: MMSinfo.org * www.facebook.com/groups/ebolacures/
YouTube Instructional Videos: www.youtube.com/channel/UCXv6hCnvjMmGg4_AYq4wlNw
Answers to many questions are in Jim Humble's books: jhbooks.org/

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