How to make HCL 4% solution (MMS activation) - Solution MUST be 4%

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14 Feb 2013 06:49 - 08 May 2014 06:27 #30540 by ix
### WARNING
HCl (HCL with a small letter L) at strength prior to dilution can cause tissue damage, permanent blindness, and scarring. 35% HCl will begin to digest your flesh.
If you do not know what you are doing, or if you are not 100% sure of what you are doing, then do not do it.

HCl is dangerous in the strength of 25-35%.

We all have low strength HCl in our stomach, for digestion.
Low strength HCl is used in many pharmaceutical applications -- and in drinking water.
WARNING ###



What is HCl ?
HCl is known as Muriatic Acid or Hydrochloric Acid.

Recommended approach :
Purchase a 4% solution from someone who knows what they are doing.
Stronger HCl solutions is dangerous stuff.

Precautions to those who know what they are doing and decide to dilute the HCl themselves:
Use gloves and eye protection. Make sure there are no bases in the area.


Example of how to make a 4% HCl solution :

• Buy 1 liter of 25% HCl solution
• Add distilled water. How much:

Divide 25 by 4 = 6,25
6,25 – 1 (HCl we had) = 5,25L distilled water to add

If that is not making sense to you, then find someone who can provide you with a 4% HCL solution.
(Do NOT use a HCL solution stronger than 4%, as anything above 4% is too strong - and very dangerous.)


How to activate MMS with HCl 4% solution :

• Use one drop of 4% ( pH ~0,1) HCl to each one drop of MMS.
• Add 100ml of water -- making the concentration as low as 0,004% HCl

The reaction time is approximately 30 seconds, depending on the outside temperature.


Can I use regular springwater to dilute the solution ?
You can but you should not, as the storage time will be decreased.


How will it taste like ?
A normal dose of MMS having been activated with HCL %4 solution will taste similiar to CDS.


### WARNING
HCl at strength prior to dilution can cause tissue damage, permanent blindness, and scarring. 35% HCl will begin to digest your flesh.
If you do not know what you are doing, or if you are not 100% sure of what you are doing, then do not do it.

HCL is dangerous in the strength of 25-35%.

We all have low strength HCL in our stomach, for digestion.
Low strength HCL is used in many pharmaceutical applications -- and in drinking water.
WARNING ###



Please read Steves comment below .

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14 Feb 2013 13:56 #30548 by pam
Another option might be a dilution calculator - they're on the web, like this one that Michael sent me..
www.restrictionmapper.org/dilutioncalc9.html

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14 Feb 2013 14:41 - 14 Feb 2013 14:42 #30551 by Steve
If you are going to make it yourself please be very careful.

HCl at strength prior to dilution can cause tissue damage, permanent blindness, and scarring.
It also emits some pretty dank and corrosive fumes.
Take precautions. Use gloves and eye protection. Make sure there are no bases in the area.

You would not believe the amount of stored energy you are dealing with.
One drop of 35% HCl on one flake of sodium chlorite will produce a sound like a gunshot, generate heat, and spatter for a long way.
I know this because I did it in a controlled, contained area. It cracked my thick glass

To reinforce what Matthew said, ....., Do not try to use anything stronger than 4% in MMS. The reaction with MMS will get stronger if the acid is too strong.
Think vinegar and baking soda...... you can get too much gas too quickly, and spatter can occur.

Citric Acid is a weak acid, and HCl is a strong acid, and you can not be cavalier in manner you handle it at strength.
You can fall in a vat of citric acid, and go take a shower, and maybe sting and itch a bit.
35% HCl will begin to digest your flesh.

I'm not trying to scare everyone to death, but I think this needs to be said.

All this being said.... at 4% there is no danger of splatter, or burns. I'm talking about the 25% to 38% available in bulk.
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14 Feb 2013 21:49 - 14 Feb 2013 21:49 #30555 by JB13
"Why is acid always added to water, and not the reverse?"

antoine.frostburg.edu/chem/senese/101/safety/faq/always-add-acid.shtml

"A large amount of heat is released when strong acids are mixed with water. Adding more acid releases more heat. If you add water to acid, you form an extremely concentrated solution of acid initially. So much heat is released that the solution may boil very violently, splashing concentrated acid out of the container! If you add acid to water, the solution that forms is very dilute and the small amount of heat released is not enough to vaporize and spatter it. So, Always Add Acid to water, and never the reverse."

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03 Jun 2013 16:56 #33502 by Mollyb
I bought MMS 1 and MMS 2 along with the cirtic acid. The MMS 1 says it contains distilled water and 22.4% sodium chlorite (from 28% salts). I bought a quart. After reading this post now I have no idea what I have. I am glad I have not tried to mix it yet. What % do I have?

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12 Aug 2013 19:41 #35240 by christineflorida
I've read your warnings and others as well when working with HCL and do take them seriously. I've been researching HCL online and I've seen concentrations ranging from 25-35%. If I purchase a product does it need to state that it is "food grade?" What is the best concentration to purchase?

Also, I'm not a technical person, could you tell me how to reach a 10% solution in very simple terms?

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12 Aug 2013 20:43 #35241 by pam
MollyB, you are fine. 22.4% is because the sodium chlorite that is used is technical grade, and it's actually 80% of the sodium chlorite flakes that you buy (the rest is other forms of sodiums, etc.) - so 22.4 is 80% of 28.0 -

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12 Aug 2013 20:45 #35242 by pam
The easiest way to get a 10% HCl is to purchase it from WPS4sale.com - they're the only people I know right now selling it.

(steve, let me know if I'm wrong) -

otherwise, you will need to use a dilution calculator available on the web.

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13 Aug 2013 17:55 #35251 by Steve
Not up yet....
Probably by end of week.

I'm busy getting stuff ready for this seminar, and have some made.
You can call or email if you need it.

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